Palmer Luckey on UFOs, Anduril, Invisibility Tech, & Moon Wars

**Palmer Luckey, Co-Founder of Anduril, **joins Sourcery for an unfiltered walk through some of the most controversial & speculative questions in modern defense technology, from UAPs and UFOs to invisibility tech, moon warfare, and why all of it may be running on parallel tracks to today’s human military development. Luckey breaks down what war would actually look like in space and on the moon, why spacecraft are nearly impossible to armor, and why survival off-Earth is so fragile that conflict would be “decisive and catastrophic.” He also explains Anduril’s real work on optical camouflage, why visible-spectrum invisibility is easier than people think, and why it’s largely irrelevant against modern adversaries armed with infrared, radar, and lidar. 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